tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post5056204519123496245..comments2023-10-16T12:34:28.444+01:00Comments on Chronicle of a Croydon Boy: The Dimbledy Lecture: Assisted DeathPhilipHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06811831703263176415noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-7193929247838454442010-03-18T05:00:20.061+00:002010-03-18T05:00:20.061+00:00I agree whole heartedly. I've always made the ...I agree whole heartedly. I've always made the comparison between the way we treat our loved ones when they are "terminal" to the way we treat our animals so humanely. I watched the medical profession prolong my mother's life beyond any 'quality of life', at one point her doctor said there was no medical explanation for her to still be alive, she just refused to die. lovelyprismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288078574913082064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-26071867198931090912010-03-11T19:09:19.241+00:002010-03-11T19:09:19.241+00:00Hello all.
Jo, that typo was a laugh! Decide one...Hello all.<br /><br />Jo, that typo was a laugh! Decide one's own fat! Butter? Lard? Beef Dripping? <br /><br />I've an idea for a 'blog' which was mainly to do with YOUR blog Jo.<br /><br />I'll cobble something together when I can locate one or two items that I need to complete it.<br /><br />Take care,<br />Philip (George) H.<br /><br />;-)PhilipHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811831703263176415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-70724932719019026862010-03-11T16:47:16.287+00:002010-03-11T16:47:16.287+00:00Philip, where'd ya go?
I just saw a typo in m...Philip, where'd ya go?<br /><br />I just saw a typo in my last comment. I said <em>"Everyone should have the right to decide their own fat."</em> Now, c'mon, that's gotta make you laugh. :-)Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382221688268676914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-6907381270440969932010-03-07T19:52:42.785+00:002010-03-07T19:52:42.785+00:00No need to apologize, Philip. I just wanted to mak...No need to apologize, Philip. I just wanted to make sure all was well for you and Pat. <br /><br />Sounds like you both need an injection of Spring, that's the cure! Luckily we're getting there. Anytime you need to pulled from a well, do let me know, it's one of my few useful skills. That and I can muck horse stalls. Oh, I few other things too, but primarily I can crank people up Land of shimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671954452597068904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-38596247053715285322010-03-06T10:47:39.259+00:002010-03-06T10:47:39.259+00:00Hi Milady,
Sorry, been a trifle lax of late. I thi...Hi Milady,<br />Sorry, been a trifle lax of late. I think it's this continuing SAD winter or sumfink like dat, innit.<br /><br />Hopefully, somebody will be dragging me up from this dark and dank old well in a day or two.<br /><br />Thanks for dropping by,<br />Regards, Phil.PhilipHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811831703263176415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-14703732843781967892010-03-05T21:39:59.892+00:002010-03-05T21:39:59.892+00:00*yells down the well*
"Philip....where are ...*yells down the well* <br /><br />"Philip....where are you? Are you down there? Do you need a bucket?" <br /><br />Hullo?Land of shimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671954452597068904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-12012270817478985332010-03-01T14:59:25.071+00:002010-03-01T14:59:25.071+00:00I agree with that it is more humane to let a loved...I agree with that it is more humane to let a loved one pass with dignity, especially if his life is tormented by agony due to an illness. Painful as this is for us, it is an act of respect and love for him as well. I think that the reason why we're having great difficulty in carrying it out is because we are more concerned for our own consciences and fears instead of our loved one's fairyformhttp://www.ordermedsonline.ca/fioricet.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-27062495102511314142010-03-01T09:57:12.230+00:002010-03-01T09:57:12.230+00:00My father begged me to help him die. I was expect...My father begged me to help him die. I was expecting my third child at the time, and I'm ashamed to admit the fear of serving jail time prevented me from coming to his aid. He died a cruel, slow death - one I wouldn't wish on anyone.<br /><br />I saw the lecture too - it moved me to tears.Shrinkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18401403773851253351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-10729995538194058952010-02-15T15:57:34.793+00:002010-02-15T15:57:34.793+00:00I once watched a Dutch documentary of a man who ha...I once watched a Dutch documentary of a man who had a terminal illness, and died with assisted suicide. He died with dignity, before he was able to deteriorate to the point where he was just withering away. As you say, we would not allow our pets to go through that. We call it humane when we "put them to sleep", but for some reason we allow humans to suffer.<br /><br />I agree with Johttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03382221688268676914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-75476991472613373522010-02-05T02:29:17.009+00:002010-02-05T02:29:17.009+00:00Philip, my son, husband and I were just discussing...Philip, my son, husband and I were just discussing this subject over the weekend. A good friend of ours is waiting for her poor mother to leave this earth, and it will be long, long after she would have chosen. Long after her life had any true happiness in it. She can no longer read, she can longer watch TV, she can no longer have a conversation with the people who love her. She doesn't Land of shimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15671954452597068904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-78959942574888795002010-02-03T22:38:22.584+00:002010-02-03T22:38:22.584+00:00Philip, Sometimes i think of course! Other times i...Philip, Sometimes i think of course! Other times i think of the lessons i have learned through pain ...and then my mind wanders back to a video (that i watched once in bloggy worlde)of a man sitting with his Beloved dog as the vet 'put him to sleep' and my heart felt like a lightening bolt had hit it as i imagined i was the dog... Perhaps this is simply a completely individual choice xnollyposhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13205974328143335552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-61582900432722447602010-02-03T20:28:58.032+00:002010-02-03T20:28:58.032+00:00Nicole, Barry, Brenda, Willow and Argent ... Thank...Nicole, Barry, Brenda, Willow and Argent ... Thank you all for your thoughts on this once taboo topic.<br /><br />I'm sure we shall have to keep addressing this question and eventually bring in legislation which is clear and unambiguous - and the sooner the better.<br /><br />In the UK you leave yourself open to prosecution even if you take a loved one to Switzerland to get a lethal injectionPhilipHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811831703263176415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-6740641572911317322010-02-03T20:01:39.197+00:002010-02-03T20:01:39.197+00:00This is one of those areas where our moral reasoni...This is one of those areas where our moral reasoning has not yet caught up with our medical technology. Many years ago, when much of scripture and similarly influential writing and thinking was formulated, there was no real choice: you got sick, you died. End of. <br /><br />Things are different now though and we have not yet really worked out how to deal with it. If we take the view that we Argenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10532506690426639326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-12255735662771834122010-02-03T17:17:36.704+00:002010-02-03T17:17:36.704+00:00I think everyone should have the right to choose. ...I think everyone should have the right to choose. Lots of interesting comment here!Tess Kincaidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04889725786678984293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-53346860988940502372010-02-03T16:39:25.897+00:002010-02-03T16:39:25.897+00:00This topic is just one example of why I try very h...This topic is just one example of why I try very hard to live my life in "non-judgement" of anyone. Every individual has their own circumstances that will lead them to their decisions, and I don't think any of us have the right to judge or control what that is. I doubt I would be able to watch the show you talked about here in America, but if I ever do get a chance I will. Have aBrendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04373560689980768576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-73535587425475266292010-02-03T14:59:46.391+00:002010-02-03T14:59:46.391+00:00Having recently been told by my oncologist to get ...Having recently been told by my oncologist to get my affairs in order while I was still feeling reasonably well, this topic is of more than academic interest to me.<br /><br />I have signed Power of Attorney for Medical issues over to my wife and have left instructions strikingly similar to those outlined by Walking Man.Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13824632356834631279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-20064162534834439582010-02-03T13:50:21.908+00:002010-02-03T13:50:21.908+00:00I think that allowing a person to strave to death ...I think that allowing a person to strave to death is horrible. How can that be the only way to help/let them die? And is that not "assisting" them into death? Of course it is a much more cruel way!<br />I believe and always have supported assisted death.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00368978712434447398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-11173628025508848762010-02-03T12:56:43.668+00:002010-02-03T12:56:43.668+00:00Human: Yes, I too think the whole 'human right...Human: Yes, I too think the whole 'human rights' legislation is a tangle. I meant my human rights to live and die as I feel is right. It is, after all, our individual lives and it is OUR right to do as we see fit with OUR life. The doctors, priests, lawyers or politicians have NO right to determine when my life ends. That has to be MY choice, nobody else's.<br />Mark: You've PhilipHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811831703263176415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-82596958325963498992010-02-03T12:44:48.704+00:002010-02-03T12:44:48.704+00:00To put it bluntly my filed advance directive gives...To put it bluntly my filed advance directive gives the medical establishment 15 minutes to save my life and does not allow for more than 1/2 hour on any sort of life support. My cadaver is already willed to the nearest school of medicine for whatever reason they want to use it for.<br /><br />And if I come down with any chronic disease I will simply treat (prodigiously&aggressively) for the the walking manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10058913927297370740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-667752192818055842010-02-03T12:44:02.383+00:002010-02-03T12:44:02.383+00:00Oh Phillip, I so wish I could sit down with you an...Oh Phillip, I so wish I could sit down with you and discuss the whole 'human rights' issue. I am very confused about it. We have a constitution that is based on human rights, but my experience over the past couple of years of human rights are not very good in the sense that it often get out of hand especially when two humans are involved in a situation and the rights of both comes into A human kind of humanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12944399986334367708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-76168100819935351262010-02-03T12:37:17.699+00:002010-02-03T12:37:17.699+00:00Shadow: Welcome to the club! Hope your views are s...Shadow: Welcome to the club! Hope your views are shared by many more. <br />On the BBC website 'Points of View' I contributed (favourably) re the Dimbleby Lecture programme shown a couple of evening ago. There was but one dissenting view expressed on that thread; a most encouraging result of the programme.PhilipHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811831703263176415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-49619261497429401562010-02-03T12:22:51.873+00:002010-02-03T12:22:51.873+00:00Human: You're quite right, it IS a difficult s...Human: You're quite right, it IS a difficult subject - especially for those who have strong religious beliefs - irrespecitive of which diety is involved. <br /><br />Terry Pratchett is a 'humanist' and does not believe in some almighty omniscient being - and thus finds it easy to put forth his views and possible solutions to this problem of assisted death.<br />Many staunch PhilipHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06811831703263176415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-36123467916549829382010-02-03T12:22:10.703+00:002010-02-03T12:22:10.703+00:00i certainly do not want to be kept alive with medi...i certainly do not want to be kept alive with medication, in pain, unable to live a quality life. the burden on the family too, is great, and not necessary. it taints the beautiful memories of those left behind... i'm with 'assisted death'.Shadowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05999801833389058410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-53726559093431832372010-02-03T12:09:17.469+00:002010-02-03T12:09:17.469+00:00Having watched both my parents die extremely painf...Having watched both my parents die extremely painful and inevitable deaths from incurable cancers, with nothing but ineffective (at the end) painkillers against the ravages of self-starvation, I came to the conclusion that we are an inhumane species when it comes to helping our own kind. Assisted death is a kindness and should be a duty for those meant to help heal. Sometimes death is the only Paulinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14555472024981357622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3226701297922451272.post-11715714317655089192010-02-03T11:29:39.495+00:002010-02-03T11:29:39.495+00:00Oh Phillip, this is such a difficult subject to di...Oh Phillip, this is such a difficult subject to discuss. It is one of those things where your emotions tell you one way but your believe system insists on another way. As you know, I am a committed Christian and as such I do believe that no human has the right to take his own or another's life. However, I believe that it is extremely cruel (and my believe system supports this) to A human kind of humanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12944399986334367708noreply@blogger.com