Thursday, 8 October 2015

We're living in a German-dominated Europe of Disharmony - UKIP Leader Ni...

14 comments:

Shadow said...

It feels like this must be a movie, unbelievable.

PhilipH said...

Whatever one's opinion is of Nigel Farage it is undoubtedly a fact that he is one of the most powerful and forceful Members of the European Parliament. Germany's Chancellor, Angela Merkell looks completely demolished by this speech.

DUTA said...

Sadly, Europe is not Europe any more. It is inhabited by large masses of people who came from the former colonies (north africans in the french speaking countries and regions: France, Belgium, Monaco, Switzerland) and many immigrants from the Middle East in other european countries.
But the United Kingdom is in the same position; it has a large population with roots in its former colonies and immigrants from all over the world - and this has a great impact on the island's present and future.

As for Germany's domination, Greece's woes, and the syrian refugees- Nigel Farage put them all in one basket, and so I failed to understand his point.

Fram Actual said...

I have two thoughts, Philip:

First, the stories of Congress and the federal court system in the United States are tales of divisiveness, confusion, bitter individual and party feuds, and an inability to find solutions to real problems and desperate situations. And, the people who occupy the offices and positions in these bodies are all citizens of the U.S. and, in theory, should have the same basic interests at heart.

Next, how can individuals from twenty-eight European countries with different histories, different interests and differing political, economic and religious beliefs be expected to work together toward mutually beneficial goals when citizens of the same country (the U.S.) cannot do so?

The European Union is doomed to ultimate failure, I think, in its present structure. Banding together in mutual suicide pacts (AKA defense treaties) and trade agreements is one thing, but indivualism, whether among people or among nations, is humankind's fate at least for the next few million years.

By the way, I echoed a sentiment similar to that of Nigel Farage regarding military-age men among the so-called refugees flooding into Europe in my comment on CiL's blog a week or two ago. Germany might be running the show, but its leadership is running things badly in regard to the refugee situation. The worst is yet to come.

By the way again .... actually, I have more than two thoughts, but enough for one day ....

PhilipH said...

I agree Fram. Norway manages quite nicely, thanks, without being signed up to the EU and this is what the UK should aim for. It's looking as though we could leave the EU after the promised referendum.
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What gets up people's noses is the 'open door' policy and the UK has become a target for too many 'economic' migrants as well as many unwanted gipsies from within the EU.

Building the Channel tunnel, was that a good idea? Hmm...

PhilipH said...

Hi Duta. Good to see you.

Nigel Farage appeals to many as somebody who does not shrink from speaking his mind and speaking it eloquently. He punches hard and fast and one could see that his words were hitting home, especially with Angela Merkel.

I remember when General de Gaulle vetoed Britain's entry to the infant EU. He had little love for the UK. In fact, France and England have not enjoyed each others company over the centuries and even now we have the French doing little or nothing with the army of economic migrants in Calais. They don't want them and neither do we. Perhaps there is no easy answer but chaos reigns until the French find one.

ANITA said...

Hello and good morning Philip!

We do agree with you in your statement..I dont like whats happening to the good little countries in Europe..Now its as bad as ever beeing united to EU.We say..Germany is eating it all up..once again..in different terms.

Here in Norway we do perfectly good not beeing into EU.We do more of the Local Food where you as a customer can buy food directly from the producer. The meat comes from own animals or animals in the vicinity, the berries are personally harvested and the breads are baked in own ovens. Because the producers sell you the products themselves, you can get all the information you wish about it.



What we are concerned of..is the emigration of people from Syria ect ect..We dont know what to do with them..We dont have space for them..But as I see..many is sent away further on to other countries..(after coming to us)



A good interesting post you do today

Wish you a good weekend Philip!

PhilipH said...

Thank you Anita, super lovely to see you here.

Norway is proud to be independent of the EU Club and here in the UK we applaud you. It is terrible that so many people are suffering in Syria and other places but this is how it has always been over thousands of years.

Small countries, like England and Norway, simply cannot house the rest of the world where death and destruction takes place day after day. It is just not possible.

My family, Mother, Father and four young boys, my brothers, all live in the heart of Greater London during the war. We lived each day and night for five years with death and destruction all around our house. We did not, could not, run away from England during all this. We fought back, with much-needed help from other countries, including Norway, and won through. Other oppressed countries should do the same as far as possible.

Sadly, the middle-eastern countries have too many different peoples and they do not have democracy. Sunnis and Shias cannot get along when one dominates the other. Until Moslems enter the 21st century they are doomed to continuing conflict.

You too, Anita, have a wonderful weekend. You deserve it and I love you for being a nurse. xxx

the walking man said...

Money talks and Germany seems to be the one controlling the central bank through it's own currency not the Euro. I'm all for unity and that but where the hell is the difference between being conquered by one despot 700 miles away and a congress of them wherever the EU HQ is located. I know of one Northampton family quitting GB for Detroit end of this month--now that is what I call desperate to get away.

PhilipH said...

Out of the frying pan ... you know the rest Mark.

The humans of the planet are pretty good at devising quicker ways to kill and maim and this world is still living in the dark ages and life, to some sects, is cheaper than ever.

As long as religious beliefs remain there is NO hope for mankind.

Snowbrush said...

He makes sense to me, and I would very much like to know what your thoughts are. The impression we get here in America is that Germany unashamedly dominates its part of the world (as countries with large economies presume the right to do—with America trying to dominate the entire world) and tries to shame, if not force, other countries to follow its lead. When I consider its enthusiasm for taking in refugees, I can but wonder if Germany’s is a case of trying to atone for its past murderous bigotry. At this rate, how long can the EU hang together? Along with the physical impossibility of trying to accommodate overwhelming numbers of refugees, there’s the thought that they are, after all members of a religion characterized by murder and oppression, and that their influx will surely create disharmony in the countries they go to. Sure, they might be humble and grateful now, but how about tomorrow when they feel secure and their numbers have mushroomed? I’m really sorry for these refugees, and I acknowledge that my country created the situation that made the IS possible, but to see small countries take them in by the hundreds of thousands? I can’t see that it will do anything but bring harm to those countries, and I know I don’t want them coming here.

PhilipH said...

Snowy, the battle to stay in or leave the EU has begun. I would prefer to leave; we are governed by the bureaucrats in Brussels, Germany and France. It is our 'open door' policy that has been disastrous for the UK in that our population is said to have increased quite dramatically over the past 30 or so years. We have hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants and it seems we're lumbered with them.

I think Nigel Farage will convince a huge number of referendum voters to elect to leave the EU and just carry on trading as a common market. Norway and Switzerland have lived happily for decades without trouble outside the EU.

Some immigrants have WALKED the 30 miles of the Channel Tunnel to enter the UK. They were arrested in Folkestone and they were so lucky not to have been killed on their perilous journey. I regret that this amazing engineering feat, the Tunnel, ever began.

Too many of these 'refugees' are not what they claim to be. Many are possible terrorists and many others seem very aggressive.

Australia has the right attitude in my opinion. Keep out!

Sparkling Red said...

Who the refugees are seems to depend on which media one is viewing. Some sources are showing desperate families, and others are depicting volatile gangs of angry youths. I guess the truth must lie somewhere in the middle. When I hear that most refugees are young men, I wonder if this wouldn't be because some of them are going ahead to set up someplace safe for their families to follow to once they are established. They can't uniformly be terrorists and violent extremists, although it's very easy for the ones that are to get a lot of attention with their antics. I admit that I wonder about these things because my great-grandparents all arrived as young men and women in the 1910s due to their need to escape pogroms in eastern Europe. Certainly refugees do need to be screened carefully, and the current floods of people are clearly unmanageable. It's an awful situation and there are no easy answers.

Snowbrush said...

“Some immigrants have WALKED the 30 miles of the Channel Tunnel”

I know. It’s all big news here. Ever since 9/11 American news has been largely dominated by events related to the Middle East. I can turn on the radio and count in seconds how long it is before I the word Syria, refugee, bombing, or suicide bomber. Now Russia has intervened in Syria, and I think we should give it to them because it seems to me that we never do anything over there that doesn’t leave the people worse off than if we had done nothing, and this at great human and financial cost to us.